This week I have painted up the 12 figures assigned to the penultimate unit of my AWI collection. Regular readers will recall I impulsively bought some partial sprues of Warlord (ex Wargames Factory) figures on a local website) To these, I was able to add a few left-over Perry figures, so that I ended up with 24 in total, enough to make two regiments of 12 figures each.
Having seen, and liked the look of, Peter's (Blunders on the Danube blog), I unashamedly decided to copy him!
Peter also provided some historical background, so I copied that too - not his version, I hasten to add, this is all from HISTORY of the 2nd NH | cherryscompany2ndnh
The 2nd NH Regiment was one of three regiments raised in New Hampshire as part of the Continental (United States) Army. These troops were separate from the thousands of militia troops raised in NH, serving instead as part of the regular army of which George Washington was the overall commander.
The regiment was raised in May 1775, though comprised mostly of 'minute companies' and other militia companies which had already been formed and organized prior to the Battles of Concord & Lexington.
While most militia units served for limited campaigns from 3 weeks to 6 months, those of the Continental Army typically served from 3 years or even for the duration of the war.
The regiment continued to serve with noted distinction as part of the NH Brigade through some of the most celebrated campaigns of the war and endured some of it's worst hardships.
Among their years of service, the 2nd NH Regiment took part in the following campaigns and battles:
*The Siege of Boston - June 1775 to March 1776
*Arnold's March to Quebec and the Assault on the City - Fall and winter of 1775 (volunteers from the NH brigade were formed into a company under the command of Capt. Henry Dearborn).
*Retreat from Canada - Spring 1776 (members of Dearborn's Co.)
* Battle of Trois Rivieres - 1776
*Occupation and Fortification of Ft. Ticonderoga & Mt. Independence - Spring to autumn 1776
*Battle of Trenton - 1776
*2nd Battle of Trenton - 1777
*Battle of Princeton - 1777
*Encampment at Morristown - 1777
*Defense of Ft. Ticonderoga & Mt. Independence - spring to summer 1777
*Battle of Hubbardton - 1777
*Battle of Freeman's Farm (Saratoga) - 1777
*Battle of Bemis Heights (Saratoga) - 1777
*Encampment at Valley Forge - 1778
*Battle of Monmouth - 1778
*Sullivan's Expedition through PA - 1779
*Battle of Newtown - 1779
*Encampment at West Point & Hudson Highlands - 1780
*Lafayette's Expedition through VA (2nd NH LI Company under temporary command of Capt. Rowell) - Spring and Summer of 1781
*Siege of Yorktown and Assault on Redoubt No. 10 (by several NH companies serving as light infantry) - 1781
*Campaign against Loyalists and Natives in Upper State NY - 1782
2nd NH combined with the 1st NH (which already had merged with the 3rd NH) to become the NH Regiment, serving to the end of the war - 1783
So, because I liked the look of the one I already printed off and added to the pole - I am going to "Ridley Scott" it- the flag stays as is!



















Nicely done, you have really made good progress on this army. The flag is a good fit for the unit, set against those lovely blue jackets.
ReplyDeleteThanks Norm - unless I get a couple more guns and maybe two small Continental Dragoon units, I am on the last unit now, I think. As a group, we already have plenty of AWI stuff, so I only really did Americans with an eye to potential future solo gaming.
DeleteNice work! Can’t fault you for picking the AI-generated flag. It is a handsome one. Those NH boys fought a lot, didn’t they?
ReplyDeleteThanks Jon, that's what I thought about the flag, too! Yes, I thought that list of engagements was never going to come to an end!
DeleteIt's a handsome regiment yet again, and saw a lot of combat; I had the 2nd flag shown, but then found the one that I used documented as well (different from your AI flag). Many of these units had a variety of flags over the many years of the AWI.
ReplyDeleteThanks Peter - I also had the dark blue one displayed to me earlier today by Co Pilot - to be fair, the AI engines all warn users that they can make mistakes!
DeleteNice addition Keith and the flag is a belter, I would have gone with that as well, good regiment to do and very nicely done. Lovely photos of your local reserve, looks a lovely walk.
ReplyDeleteCheers Donnie, glad you like the unit and their flag too! Yes, it's a nice little walk we have only just "discovered" after living here about 25 years!
DeleteThe unit looks great, as does the flag. I wouldn't know whether it was right or wrong... nor am I too bothered.
ReplyDeleteThanks Richard - that's kind of my attitude, too!
DeleteFantastic looking unit sir!
ReplyDeleteThanks a lot Michal!
DeleteA nice looking unit Keith I have some AWI Americans in the queue at the moment but keep being distracted.
ReplyDeleteThanks Matt - might be time to bump your AWI unit to the front of the queue?
DeleteIt is a very eye-catching unit and a great inclusion. Nice work Keith.
ReplyDeleteThank you kindly, sir!
DeleteVery nice looking regiment
ReplyDeleteCheers Scotty, glad you like them.
DeleteNow that is a rather nice unit and I think a lot of us have gone 'Ridley Scott' at times since that dreadful film was released;)!
ReplyDeleteThanks Steve! Haha, I have been doing it for years, it's just since the film that I have had a term for it that other wargamers will recognise and immediately understand!
DeleteGreat job Keith. A very busy unit! Turning button counter for a minute, you might wanna cover the St Patricks cross on the flag.
ReplyDeleteThanks Chris - yes, funnily enough, the first AI generation was minus the St Patricks cross but subsequent ones added it in.... I might just get off my arse and go do that right this second!
DeleteGreat work Keith and hopefully they get as many games on the table as they did in reality!
ReplyDeleteAlways good to find a new walk nearby.
Thanks Ben - nice thought but it seems unlikely I will have that many AWI games - one never knows, of course!
DeleteYes, we have driven past it for twenty years - our sone even used to do rugby training there when he was eight or ten - always thought about walking up the hill to see what was there - but we only finally got around to doing it a few weeks back!
They look grand, Keith. It's a beautiful shade of blue, as you note.
ReplyDeleteAI is so clever isn't it? A world in which everything is simply made up. I can't make a video of you leading the 2nd New Hampshire into battle, but it took me one search and the first 'hit' to get to this, reputable site:
https://www.amrevmuseum.org/virtualexhibits/banners-of-liberty/pages/2nd-new-hampshire-regiment :)
Best wishes, James
Thanks James! Yes, I have seen that flag identified at the 2 NH Regt - and I have also regularly seen a blue one with some kind if device in the centre - it looks a bit like a British regimental colour - both could be right, of course - or, potentially, neither - someone might have got something wrong back in 1780 or 1790 when all the first histories were being written and information recorded - what's for sure is, MY flag is BS - but it looks pretty cool!
DeleteYes, your computer model generated flag looks great. Importantly you know that it is completely made up and it does not matter a toss for a miniature unit where near enough is good enough—and provided someone does not take it as having any verisimilitude.
Delete"...both could be right, of course - or, potentially, neither - someone might have got something wrong back in 1780 or 1790..." 'Cept it ain't the case. There is clear and detailed information about both flags (c1777) in the collection of the museum regarding painting, motifs, history... Of course there is interpretation and bias in historical records, but they have a line of evidence that can be interrogated. Simply 'say it and it shall be so' or state that 'everything is uncertain to the same degree' is a bane on the evidence base of human knowledge and, I'd say, on human existence.
I know that you did not post this wanting a rant about the importance of the body of evidence, but you got one for free anyway! :) It has been bad enough throughout history with propaganda, mis- and dis-information generated by various people & governments, but it is getting outa control with the ease with which complete bunkum can now be produced. Not to mention horrible, offensive and stupid images and videos or the mass theft of the creative input, 'intellectual property' of musicians, artists, writers... It needs to be called out and discouraged at every turn. These computer models are brilliant tools, particularly for rapid, massive screening of data, but only when combined with the input of an intelligent monkey.
Best wishes, James
Thanks James, at least your response has pushed my comment count up another two spots!
DeleteAs you inferred, I am not overly exercised about the accuracy of the flag....to be totally honest, if I had realized it was one of the few that there is historical evidence for, I would have used one of those..but I didn't, not until it was too late ....and I couldn't be bothered pulling it off the pole and substituting the real one!
Now, if it was a British colour, I would make sure it was right.....!
Not sure what I am going to do for the 18th Mass....any suggestions?!
Two more comments, I love it. Made me laugh aloud!
DeleteI dunno. You'll have more refs on the period than I. The "search and immediately find it" trick does not work for this unit :(.
You have probably already found all of these, but here goes anyway.
These two get you close:
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/massachusetts-state-house-art-and-artifact-collections-battle-flags#revolutionary-war-era-reproduction-flags
https://docslib.org/doc/6032503/the-massachusetts-state-house-battle-flag-collection
The 13 star national flag could be groovy?
Another example of it here:
https://portlandflag.org/2015/04/13/us-flag-18th-century/
Some good ones here, but nothing about the 18th Mass. specifically
https://loeser.us/flags/revolution.html
Have you painted the Bedford Minutemen? You can use this one, if you have!
https://www.americanrevolution.org/the-bedford-flag/
Of course, if you ask ya new mate AI, it'll probably give you the one from the Civil War. If you don't mind too much, it looks good and can be a forward doffing to the unit's famous future?!!
https://www.flagsofwar.com/products/acwu56
Happy hunting, James
This is great, saves me doing any work at all...almost! I will have a look and see how I get on...but I won't be using an ACW flag....I would rather have AI make one up for me!
DeleteGreat looking AWI troops and unit flag. Nice outdoor scenes a well!
ReplyDeletePleased you like them, Dean....thanks!
DeleteLovely looking unit, similar to the foreign regiments in Spanish service I intend painting, I like your Christmas tree flag and it reminds me of an anecdote I read by John Mollo? The cistume designer, when they were filming revolution, which he did the costumes for, and Kings Lynn was standing in for 18th century New York,as you do, he overhead people saying " bloody film people cant even get the union jack right!" As it was the grand union flag sans St Patrick cross, a little knowledge?
ReplyDeleteBest Iain
Haha, yes indeed Iain....I do actually know that, I am pretty sure the red X was added in 1801!
DeleteThat’s a nice looking unit Keith…
ReplyDeleteI try and be as accurate as I can with Uniforms and Standards… but if there is no hard proof… Pretty wins… all the time.
So I know what flag I would have π
All the best. Aly
Cheers Aly....I think James is right and there is reasonable evidence of the correct flag...I am just too lazy to change it...and I am not overly concerned about one or two discrepancies to be brutally honest π π
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